Ich will mich zum Thema #KI auch mal äußern. Schließlich forschen und lehren wir in diesem Bereich.
Ein Punkt, der in der Berichterstattung und Diskussion meines Erachtens viel zu wenig Beachtung findet:
Da rollt eine riesige Welle auf uns zu. Eine Welle ungeahnten Ausmaßes und mit verheerenden Folgen für Wirtschaft und Gesellschaft. Die Welle der Inkompetenz.
Kurzer Realitätsabgleich: Bei uns an der Uni sind vorlesungsbegleitende Übungen, Fachpraktika und Seminare effektiv tot. Ob Programmieraufgaben, Übungsblätter oder Textarbeit - der Anteil an KI-generierten Abgaben liegt (geschätzt, denn genau sagen kann man das nie) zwischen 90% und 100%. Studis lassen ganze Bachelor- und Master-Arbeiten von KI erstellen. Code und Ausarbeitung sowieso, aber auch inklusive der ebenfalls notwendigen Vortragsfolien. Wir hatten den ersten Studi, der im persönlichen Betreuungsgespräch (keine Prüfung!) nicht mal mehr selbst geantwortet hat. Der hatte währenddessen ChatGPT offen und hat unsere Fragen einfach weitergereicht und uns die Antworten vorgelesen. Ohne Scham. Stellt man diesen Studis nur eine Nachfrage, z.B. zu ihrem Code - keine Antwort/Ahnung.
Wir bilden insofern gerade eine Generation von Studis aus (bzw. die sich selbst), die keine Kompetenz hat und nichts genuin kann, d.h. keine auf Wissen und Verständnis basierte Expertise, außer eine KI zu bedienen.
Die ersten dieser Studis gehen jetzt in den Arbeitsmarkt. Der oben genannte mit ChatGPT ist anscheinend bei der Deutschen Bank untergekommen. Die Leute arbeiten dort vermutlich genau so weiter, werden irgendwann auch Chef:in. Erwarten von ihren Mitarbeitenden dann auch nichts anderes. Das ist eine Katastrophe.
Nur für eine Gruppe von Leuten nicht. Nämlich die, die jetzt diesem Trend entgegengehen und es schaffen, sich wirklich selbst Dinge zu erarbeiten, zu verstehen und zu durchdenken, und auf dieser Basis auch Neues zu erschaffen. Meine Erwartung/Vorhersage: Diese Leute werden in nicht allzu ferner Zukunft hart umworben werden, sich jeden Job aussuchen können und sehr gut bezahlt werden.
Alle anderen, befürchte ich, werden mit ihren selbstgewählten Inkompetenz in der Bedeutungslosigkeit verschwinden, wenn KI keine "ausgeklügelten" Prompts mehr braucht.
Brave new world.
grischa
in reply to Finn • • •SusiFx
in reply to grischa • • •where is Sharkey -
where is Iceshrimp ?
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PositivDenken 🤯
in reply to Finn • • •Reiner Jung 🇬🇱 🇺🇦 🇪🇺
in reply to PositivDenken 🤯 • • •Benedikt Neuzweig
in reply to PositivDenken 🤯 • • •Do-re-mi-so-la-ti-do
in reply to PositivDenken 🤯 • • •PositivDenken 🤯
in reply to Do-re-mi-so-la-ti-do • • •these days no one speaks actual Bavarian anymore in Bavaria, so there must be other reasons if it didn’t work for you 😜
@finn
Do-re-mi-so-la-ti-do
in reply to PositivDenken 🤯 • • •Stephan
in reply to Do-re-mi-so-la-ti-do • • •Rupert V/
in reply to Do-re-mi-so-la-ti-do • • •PositivDenken 🤯
in reply to Rupert V/ • • •Bavarians are being told that speaking Bavarian is inferior and only stupid people do it. That’s why many avoid it at all costs. It’s a dying language, but mostly because of other reasons, I think.
@bremner @finn
Rupert V/
in reply to PositivDenken 🤯 • • •WooShell
in reply to PositivDenken 🤯 • • •PositivDenken 🤯
in reply to WooShell • • •Both count as their own language (officially), and so does Bavarian...
@finn
Kora - Caramel Fox
in reply to WooShell • • •Tyrone Slothrop
in reply to Finn • • •🄻🅄🄽🄰
in reply to Tyrone Slothrop • • •if i had 2 become fluent by studying i woulda given up by the second lesson
german grammar is an actual crime
Tyrone Slothrop
in reply to 🄻🅄🄽🄰 • • •yes it is
I find German grammar impossible to understand, much less explain
And I’m a native speaker, with 7 years of Latin in school.
I know grammar. Just not German grammar.
🄻🅄🄽🄰
in reply to Tyrone Slothrop • • •yea all that stuff went in one side and out the other in my school days
2 the dismay of my mother, a german teacher
Tyrone Slothrop
in reply to 🄻🅄🄽🄰 • • •hah, I feel you. my mum was a math teacher, my dad an engineer,
and I can’t math to save my life
🄻🅄🄽🄰
in reply to Tyrone Slothrop • • •🄻🅄🄽🄰
in reply to 🄻🅄🄽🄰 • • •Bernd Paysan R.I.P Natenom 🕯️
in reply to Tyrone Slothrop • • •🦇🕸️ Moxie the Macabre 🪦🥀
in reply to Finn • • •Peter Brown
in reply to 🦇🕸️ Moxie the Macabre 🪦🥀 • • •lgsp
in reply to Peter Brown • • •I heard the same, but the other way around 😁
@moxie @finn
Irina
in reply to lgsp • • •@peterbrown @moxie @finn
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Jens
in reply to Irina • • •jœ̈l
in reply to Jens • • •Zeborah
in reply to jœ̈l • • •...Luxembourgish has found a way to create a more annoying orthographic rule than French??
(I know this is rich coming from an English speaker but I feel like English doesn't have orthographic rules so much as an endless list of orthographic exceptions.)
@ohyran @irina @lgsp @peterbrown @moxie @finn
jœ̈l
in reply to Zeborah • • •Okay, it's not even Luxembourgish-exclusive: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eifel_ru…
@ohyran @irina @lgsp @peterbrown @moxie @finn
Eifel rule - Wikipedia
Contributors to Wikimedia projects (Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.)Zeborah
in reply to jœ̈l • • •Mark Dominus
in reply to jœ̈l • • •xiaotu🎃
in reply to Jens • • •Peter Brown
in reply to Irina • • •Irina
in reply to Peter Brown • • •lgsp
in reply to Irina • • •Stefan Baur 8 * 💉
in reply to lgsp • • •Milly
in reply to Stefan Baur 8 * 💉 • • •Stefan Baur 8 * 💉
in reply to Milly • • •Milly
in reply to Stefan Baur 8 * 💉 • • •lgsp
in reply to Stefan Baur 8 * 💉 • • •That's really specific!
@irina @peterbrown @moxie @finn
רבקהלע
in reply to lgsp • • •Kate Hildenbrand (DE)
in reply to Peter Brown • • •I have lived in Germany and the Netherlands. I an fluent in English and German. I barely speak any Dutch. I learned Spanish and English in school.
Dutch always sounded to me like a person from some British backwater with a heavy accent trying to speak German. And then I actually learned some, and it's a really pretty language. And now, I can only tell you that I am not a banana. Not great for a year there...
Michaël Maex
in reply to Kate Hildenbrand (DE) • • •Kate Hildenbrand
in reply to Michaël Maex • • •I kept trying to learn but people either immediately switched to English or tried to get out of the conversation if that was not an option. Strange!
@peterbrown @moxie @finn
Daniel Bohrer
in reply to Kate Hildenbrand • • •welkom bij de niet-een-banaan-club 😁
I recently started watching Dutch late-night comedy TV on YouTube with subtitles, and I have the feeling that it helps to get a broader vocabulary. It still takes me about three times as long when I have to look up most words, but it's getting better!
Sibrosan
in reply to Daniel Bohrer • • •Welcome to the Easy Dutch channel! 🇳🇱
Easy Dutch (YouTube)Daniel Bohrer
in reply to Sibrosan • • •Σ(i³) = (Σi)²
in reply to Daniel Bohrer • • •Millennia from now, when the history of the invasion is written: impossibly advanced space invaders with technology comfortably in the realm of magic, and they speak Dutch for a reason no human ever understood and came to earth on a zealous quest to erase all bananas from the universe; scholars will discuss why the three of you were the only humans to survive...
@rootsandcalluses @michaelmaex @peterbrown
Kermode 🇨🇦 🏴
in reply to Kate Hildenbrand • • •I want your language.
Please.
Yes, I'm too stupid and old and will write in english, but please, please write me in something else.
OK. Well, except you @ghostdancer , not catalan - that's just really confusing!
@michaelmaex @peterbrown @moxie
ghostdancer
in reply to Kermode 🇨🇦 🏴 • • •@rootsandcalluses @michaelmaex @peterbrown @moxie
Kermode 🇨🇦 🏴
in reply to ghostdancer • • •Or Basque w/e, I sometimes feel like you are only messing with me!
But I know you are really talking to your peeps.
You know me, I am not very good with languages.
I am trying.
One language at a time, until I die.
@rootsandcalluses @michaelmaex @peterbrown @moxie
ghostdancer
in reply to Kermode 🇨🇦 🏴 • • •@rootsandcalluses @michaelmaex @peterbrown @moxie
the_doctor
in reply to Kate Hildenbrand • • •I AM BANKSY ☕ / 🗑🔥
in reply to Kate Hildenbrand • • •... And when you get someone to agree to speak Dutch, they do it as fast as humanly possible.
@michaelmaex @peterbrown @moxie @finn
Carmilla-Lisandrette 🧛♀️
in reply to Kate Hildenbrand • • •Best place to learn Dutch might be here in Auckland tbh. We have sooooo many Dutch immigrants.
The first gen is usually delighted to chat with you in Dutch. Some of the elderly speak very little English and really enjoy being able to talk to new people as well.
Kate Hildenbrand
in reply to Carmilla-Lisandrette 🧛♀️ • • •xiaotu🎃
in reply to Kate Hildenbrand (DE) • • •this is so funny to me bc the most vivid memory of my first introduction to Deutsch/German (which i've never forgotten) was my friends who were taking Deutsch classes when we were 13 years old (in usa), teaching me to say "du bist ein Gemüse". which, you know, bananas aren't Gemüse, so you could be not a banana but also ein Gemüse lol
and i've never forgotten how to say vegetable, as a result!!
Mysturji
in reply to Kate Hildenbrand (DE) • • •That could be useful some day.
Kate Hildenbrand
in reply to Mysturji • • •Ich bin keine Banane (German)
Ik ben geen banaan (Dutch, hopefully spelled right)
@peterbrown @moxie @finn
Mysturji
in reply to Kate Hildenbrand • • •Can anyone provide the same phrase in other languages? I like to travel. 🙂
Massimiliano Siddi
in reply to Mysturji • • •Jeg er ikke en banan. (DK)
@rootsandcalluses @peterbrown @moxie @finn
Kate Hildenbrand
in reply to Mysturji • • •No soy un banano. (Spanish)
Je ne suis pas une banane. (French)
@peterbrown @moxie @finn
Σ(i³) = (Σi)²
in reply to Kate Hildenbrand • • •@mysturji @peterbrown @moxie @finn
Peter Brown
in reply to Σ(i³) = (Σi)² • • •Mees 🔻
in reply to Kate Hildenbrand • • •Saule, anar en Mousses
in reply to Peter Brown • • •Yup
Between english and German I can mostly understand what Dutch people say. Some nuances might be lost but the gist is there.
Peter Brown
in reply to 🦇🕸️ Moxie the Macabre 🪦🥀 • • •Will Deakin
in reply to Peter Brown • • •Peter Brown
in reply to 🦇🕸️ Moxie the Macabre 🪦🥀 • • •gullevek ☢️ 🇯🇵
in reply to Peter Brown • • •Finn
in reply to gullevek ☢️ 🇯🇵 • • •"Your language sounds like mine, just drunk."
Carsten Raddatz
in reply to Finn • •