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Hubzilla on Silverhaze.EU gone

Already announced months ago (so that the users had enough time to migrate) I've now shutdown my #Hubzilla hub running on Silverhaze.EU:

server:~# a2dissite silverhaze.eu
Site silverhaze.eu disabled.
To activate the new configuration, you need to run:
  service apache2 reload
server:~# service apache2 reload
[ ok ] Reloading Apache httpd web server: apache2.
server:~#
postgres@server:~$ dropdb hubzilla
postgres@server:~$


Hubzilla was a nice thing to try out, but I don't think that I've gained much benefit of this, because I also have #Friendica node running for years and a #Mastodon instance running for some time now.
Hubzilla is a nice software for what it is: a complete set of web applications. When you only want to have some kind of social web for the #... Show more...
@Ingo Jürgensmann yeah, postgres on Friendica is something we really have to address. And the thing with the channels does need some frontend work.
@Michael Vogel - when you have something to test feel free... I would volunteer to setup another node and do some tests... Migrating from MySQL would be nice as well, but I think that would be really a complex task. ;-)
It's a task that has to be prepared very well - and I guess we can finally address this, when we have changed all database calls - which will last some time.
Maybe I can help with some SQL queries then...

Top of the pop would be to have an abstraction layer where you can switch between databases and that keeps both in sync... that way everyone could decide which DBMS to use, but that's a crazy idea of course... would be a nice task for some students for GSOC or so ;)
This here is our abstraction layer: https://github.com/friendica/friendica/blob/develop/src/Database/DBA.php - we just have to convert all the old calls to the new ones from this class.

Hubzilla Hub?

Oh well... I've started my Hubzilla hub on https://silverhaze.eu/ some months ago and I'm already the 7th largest Hubzilla hub according to: https://the-federation.info/hubzilla

Some weeks ago I also started my Mastodon instance on https://nerdculture.de/ which is still quite small.

But somehow Hubzilla seems to be a little awkward or strange in my eyes. For a public hub some features are missing in my eyes. For example a user quota for uploaded files. I do miss that feature in Friendica as well, but the situation in Hubzilla is worse, because you can also enable generic websites, WebDAV, generic Files etc. in Hubzilla. It's more like "one size fits all" approach. If you don't have Nextcloud, you can use Hubzilla. If you don't have a blog, you can use Hubzilla. etc.

But I never got really warm with Hubzilla. One main advantage in my eyes is that it can run on PostgreSQL as a database.
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Kris diaspora
Try Osada : it is powerfull like hubzilla and much more light and user friendly.


#Friendica vs #Hubzilla vs #Mastodon

I've been running a #Friendica node for several years now. Some months ago I also started to run a #Hubzilla hub as well. Some days ago I also installed #Mastodon on a virtual machine, because there was so much hype about Mastodon in the last days due to some changes Twitter made in regards of 3rd party clients.

All of those social networks do have their own focus:

Friendica: basically can connect to all other social networks, which is quite nice because there exists historically two different worlds: the Federation (Diaspora, Socialhome) and the Fediverse (GnuSocial, Mastodon, postActiv, Pleroma). Only Friendica and Hubzilla can federate with both: Federation and Fediverse.
Friendicas look&feel appears sometimes a little bit outdated and old, but it works very well and reliable.

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#Friendica #Hubzilla #Mastodon #Friendica #hubzilla #mastodon
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What are those Android clients you quoted? Thank you.
Hmmm... you mean Friendica Android clients? As I don't have Android, I don't give any advises or comment on what's available.
Maybe you should ask !Friendica Support for this...
I asked because of that part:
- Friendica: MySQL/MariaDB, PHP on the server, Clients: some Android clients
What are those Android clients you quoted? Thank you.

Kleine Übersicht über meine #SocialMedia Instanzen laut https://the-federation.info :
- #Friendica auf https://nerdica.net/ : drittgrößter Node insgesamt nach active monthly user
- #Hubzilla auf https://silverhaze.eu/ auf Platz 7
- #Mastodon auf https://nerdculture.de/about nur 2 User

If #Facebook is now thinking about paid accounts without ads, then it‘s just that: no ads! But it doesn‘t mean that it is not selling your data the same way it does with free accounts. Protect your #privacy, #DeleteFacebook & join the #federation/ #Fediverse! #friendica #hubzilla
Das ist so als ob Sklaven freiwillig bezahlen würden um weiterverkauft zu werden.
;-)

Bei solchen Meldungen muss man halt immer genau hinschauen. Das ist so wie bei ueberspezifischen Dementis, wo der Nachrichtenwert haeufiger darin liegt, was eben nicht gesagt wurde. ;)
Das ist sachlich nicht ganz korrekt. FB verkauft nicht die Daten, die sie über die User gesammelt haben. Sie bieten der Werbeindustrie an, deren Werbung möglichst zielgruppengenau (Micro-Targeting) anzuzeigen. Die Werbetreibenden kennen die einzelnen Profile nicht. Sie wählen nur sowas aus: männlich, 25 35 Jahre, an Sport interessiert. Also bekommen dann User, die darauf passen in Zukunft Werbung von Nike angezeigt. Das wars schon.
Das heisst aber nicht, dass FB die Daten nicht auch insofern fuer zahlende Kunden "verkauft" als dass sie dann zwar nicht direkt Werbung angezeigt bekommen, aber die User dann trotzdem an den Werbetreibenden gemeldet werden, der dann daraufhin auf externen Seiten entsprechend zielgerichtet Werbung anzeigen kann. Nur eben nicht direkt auf FB.
Ich denke, wenn FB Geld machen kann, werden sie es auf alle erdenklichen Wege versuchen. Ist per se nicht verwerflich, sollte man sich aber im Klaren drueber sein.
Jo, für solche Fälle wird FB wohl im Browser einen extra Cookie setzen und die Werbeagentur kennt die entsprechenden Codes in den Cookies


If you still want to #degoogle or #DeleteFacebook and looking for alternatives, have a look at https://fediverse.party/ - a great looking site that explains your options very neatly. Just be aware that #Friendica and #Hubzilla are federating with all others (most connected)
Nice! I wonder why MediaGoblin hasn't joined the party yet?
- https://goblinrefuge.com/mediagoblin/

Who wants to be user #2 on my new #Hubzilla hub? Just browse to https://silverhaze.eu/register and get started!

#DeleteFacebook #SocialMedia #Fediverse
Ok, 3 new users in the last hours have registered, but none have logged in so far.

\#nowords
Well, two of them have delivery issues:
- 1x Insufficient system storage
- 1x Connection timed out

Beside of my #Friendica node on https://nerdica.net/ I’ve set up a new #Hubzilla hub on https://silverhaze.eu/ to offer even more choices for those users that did already or want to #DeleteFacebook. New users are welcome! :-)
I want to know what is the difference between Hubzilla and Friendica orz
Difficult to say as my #Friendica installation is from 2013 or so and my #Hubzilla installation is from last night, so I haven't figured out all the differences yet.

I think the GUI is more modern in Hubzilla. The ease of adding media files is better with Hubzilla and you have more features such as an integrated Wiki, "Cloud" (Webdav), and others.

Many settings and addons seem to be identical for both systems. Or in other words: they both seem to share some significant amount of source code.

#Friendica appears to me more robust to me at this stage. Another positive for #Hubzilla is that it supports PostgreSQL as a database, which is my preferred DBMS. My impression is at the moment as well is that #Hubzilla page load times are faster than with #Nerdica. Maybe 0.5 to 2 secs faster, depending on the content, but this can be caused by the tiny size of #Hubzilla at the moment (150 MB vs 6.4 GB #Friendica).

In the end, I think it is more or less a matter of personal preference.
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