Are Gen Z having a universal "idk how to cook" problem or is that just a minority? And for people who arent good with meal prep (or dont have time), what do y'all even eat? Those Microwavable meals?
Okay maybe this isnt the best demographics here but like I mean as in if you know someone who's Gen Z, do they have a "idk how to cook" issue?
(Please don't be like "omg its easy, how could you not know" in the comments, be nice in the comments okay 🙈)
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in reply to 「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」 • • •I work with a lot of Gen Z and it’s been fun talking to them about cooking! They are learning techniques, recipes, and talking about how they are improving each time they make something.
We share recipes and have fun with it. Ofc everyone eats out, or brings microwave meals. That’s life. But watching them learn and grow as people is pretty awesome. Some boomer probably asked the same about my millennial self.
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Onomatopoeia
in reply to Marins_Ballad • • •I suspect it's a bit worse today because of convenience systems, but yea, I was clueless as a young adult too.
No one taught me as a kid (thanks, Mom) so had to figure it out on my own.
Fortunately for young adults today the resources are extensive.
disregardable
in reply to 「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」 • • •Yes, that's called "growing up." You have to teach yourself. It's a frustrating process, because you don't understand how to select recipes that suit your needs. 1/2 the recipes I found online usually resulted in a fail, because I couldn't tell the difference between a good recipe and a bad one. I love the first cookbook I bought now, but at the time, what was I going to do with buckwheat blinis or tea-poached pears in chocolate sauce? I needed a basic pancake and chocolate cookies recipe. That book was basically useless for the first 5 years I owned it.
If I could go back, I would start with:
budgetbytes.com
noracooks.com
"I can cook vegan" by Isa Chandler
Chef John on youtube youtube.com/@foodwishes
Cooking is a skill. You learn it one meal at a time. What you want to start with is building a repertoire of simple, 15 minute meals that you love and that you can crank out with your eyes closed. Once you have like 3-5 of those, then you have a separation between "I need to eat" and "I want to learn to cook." That separation is what lets you not feel frustrated and focus on your skills.
Nora Cooks - Simple, Tasty, Affordable Vegan Recipes
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in reply to disregardable • • •Wow, well put.
I'd also recommend America's Test Kitchen (the older ones with Chris, because they focused on basics), and their cookbook (which is like $20) because it explains the "why" for a lot of recipes.
And Good Eats, because he was all about how things work from a food chemistry perspective.
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schipelblorp
in reply to disregardable • • •Yes, it really is just having a few basic recipes that are adaptable.
Unfortunately, nobody generalizes their recipes, so you have to look up a lot of recipes before you see the pattern sometimes, and that makes it feel more challenging..
Someone needs to make a cookbook full of recipes like:
1) Add oil to a pan.
2) Add your aromatics [select from the following list.]
3) Add your
[vegetables]4) Add you
[meats]Cook on medium heat for 20-40 minutes, until everything is beginning to brown or something.
Insted, you get a 300 page cook book with all the possible combinations of spices and ingredients and it's overwhelming.
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in reply to pelespirit • • •Yeah, it's called HowToBasic.
(In all seriousness)
Dad, how do I?
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in reply to TheTechnician27 • • •This should be much higher up - the guy's amazing.
I helped me to see how to teach my son's certain tasks that were at the time eluding them.
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in reply to schipelblorp • • •How To Cook Without A Book by Pam Anderson describes the basics really well and each chapter goes over the general principles of a kind of dish (like seared meat or steamed veggies) with a general master recipie and then describes variations (like different pan sauces for the different seared meats).
I found a PDF of what looks like the whole book: cdn.bookey.app/files/pdf/book/…
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in reply to schipelblorp • • •Ha, that’s like much every Lutheran hotdish recipe. Basically need a meat, spices, veg, and cream of mushroom soup. It’s pretty wild what some people come up with, but the tater tot and the green bean variants were staples when I was a kid.
ocweekly.com/five-great-minnes…
It’s awesome comfort food in the depths of winter, uses the leftovers, and is cheap to make. I don’t go to church anymore, but still love a good hotdish!
Five Great Minnesota Versions of Hotdish (a.k.a. Casserole) – OC Weekly
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in reply to schipelblorp • • •I like this site for a "generalized recipe"
stew-recipe.com/
Stew Recipe – Improvise steps to a stew
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HSR🏴☠️
in reply to schipelblorp • • •"Happy Pear Vegan Cooking for Everyone" is pretty close to what you describe. You get cooking instructions and a list of ingredients divided by their role in a dish (aromatics, core vegetables, beans, liquid, spices etc.) The recipes are great as is, even if you're not planning on experimenting.
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in reply to disregardable • • •Plus one to Chef John. That's how I learned how to cook, one recipe at a time.
I would recommend this one as a starting point because it's easy, you learn a method that you use all the time (making a roux) and it's delicious. I still make it all the time.
Chicken with Chipotle & Green Onion Gravy
Also a quick tip: you can roast most veggies (e.g. green beans, brussel sprouts, asparagus) with some olive oil and salt at 375° for a bit and they will come out tasty.
Chicken with Chipotle & Green Onion Gravy - Chicken Breast with Pan Gravy Recipe
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Mycatiskai
in reply to disregardable • • •Another great YouTube channel for learning to cook and bake is "Glen and Friends cooking". He has years of videos and always aims his content toward those that are new to kitchens.
He does a Sunday morning old cookbook recipe every week as well that goes into food history. He also releases a regular recipe most weeks but his schedule is changing a bit. It is worth going back through his older videos because he does a lot of "what was on sale at the grocery store" recipes that are great for making cheap meals for your family.
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Bob Robertson IX
in reply to disregardable • • •In my 20s I perfected my chili... It took a long time to get right, and I ate a lot of bad chili (but really, even the worst chili is still pretty good). I found the perfect 'secret ingredients' and techniques and then I got married to a wonderful woman, who is allergic to tomatoes and peppers, and doesn't like beans. It's been years since I've made chili.
Anyway, my point is just that you're absolutely right... you learn to cook by doing it.
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in reply to Bob Robertson IX • • •Bob Robertson IX
in reply to whosepoopisonmybuttocks • • •It's been 20 years since I last made it, and it wasn't something I ever wrote down... But from memory:
Dice 1 white onion
Dice 1 bell pepper
Chop a few cloves of garlic
Add a tablespoon of cumin seed
Saute the onion, bell pepper cumin and garlic in bourbon until the onion is translucent
(I have no idea if the bourbon helps at this point, but it was an excuse to take a shot)
Add ground beef (the amount will depend on how much you're making and if you're adding beans, I usually did 1 pound) .
Chop up a spicy pepper or two (type and amount depends on how spicy you want it, I usually did 2 habineros and a jalapeno)
After browning the ground beef add 2 large cans of tomato sauce and a small can of tomato paste.
If you want beans, add a can of two of kidney beans.
Add in ground cumin, paprika, onion powder, graphic powder, cayenne powder.
Drain beef grease
Pour in a bottle or can of whatever beer you're going to drink with it .
Simmer until the right consistency, stirring occasionally. Don't let your hunger rush this step.
Serve with sliced peppers, onions and shredded cheese as offered toppings.
Really, I'm sure I'm missing something with this, and I have no idea how much of each spice I added... I'm pretty sure I never actually measured it. Cumin was a game changer when I found that... It adds a great flavor. The whole seeds at the start add some texture, while the ground added later helps punch up the flavor.
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in reply to disregardable • • •Haha. Yes, it's important to get some basics down. Get a small amount of stuff from the store and be able to do many things with it.
The fancy recipes are great and all, but you end up with some items in the pantry you may never use again.
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in reply to 「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」 • • •COVID broke people. I know people who cooked their own food all the time, and they've shifted to 100% online ordering or going for take-out -- even breakfast and lunch -- and they're paying through the nose. But this just seems like the New Normal to them.
I don't think the problem is unique to Gen Z but it definitely skews toward the younger generations.
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igmelonh
in reply to RickRussell_CA • • •Funny. I'm on the older side of Gen Z (closing in on 30) and I actually started cooking because of quarantine. (See my other comment.) I make a fruit smoothie for breakfast every day and prep salads for lunch at work, which I guess technically isn't "cooking", but it's food that I prepared. I often meal prep by cooking something for Sunday dinner that I'll reheat as leftovers for weekday dinners.
I do get takeout occasionally, but my favorite places tend to be things like a local Thai place whose curry pad Thai is under $15 and lasts 2-3, so it balances out to more like $5 or $7.5 a meal.
The Indian food that I've gotten also tends to last at least a couple meals for a very reasonable cost — and has become my favourite cuisine since first trying it in 2023 — but regrettably the nearest place is like 45 minutes away, and driving an hour and a half to pick up food is not my go-to, so I don't get it often.
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in reply to RickRussell_CA • • •Millennial here. We fell victim to the ease and variety of delivery apps, but broke the habit this year. It was a mix of things, but mostly price went gone up and quality went down.
How my house break the habit? We set a goal. A vacation next year, partly funded by what was going to delivery food. When laid out clearly, the choice was clear, a sizable vacation to another country was worth way more than underwhelming fast food.
i_stole_ur_taco
in reply to 「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」 • • •I don’t think it’s generational in a way that GenZ is any different. This is an age thing.
Most people never need to cook before they’re 18. They just got fed at home. When people first start to move out, things start to shift. Some people get into relationships where the other person cooks. They’re still being provided for.
Others learn a bare minimum of things to cook and do it badly. They do feed themselves but self describe as “can’t cook”.
And some step up and learn the things you need to know to cook that isn’t taught in school.
Time goes by, and more people find themselves in situations where they now need to cook. The population of cooks grows and the non-cooks shrinks.
Whether it’s because of changing interests, financial pressure, divorce, whatever, people need some pressure to develop the skill, and over time they do.
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in reply to i_stole_ur_taco • • •Is this a western thing? I was taught to cook when I was old enough to handle the stove.
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in reply to calmblue75 • • •Westerner here (US-Am). This is not ubiquitous, but I was never prompted to even chop vegetables, let alone actually cook meals as a kid. I learned how to cook in my early 20s during quarantine due to wanting food that I like that fits my dietary restrictions, and because I was unemployed for a couple years and cooking your own meals is generally much less expensive.
Now, while I don't "enjoy" cooking — sometimes it's actually quite stressful, though much less now than when I started; following recipe instructions initially led to burned onions or garlic, over- or under-seasoned food, concern over the caramelizing taking thrice as long as the recipe said it would, etc. — I rarely dislike my own food, since I generally know how I'm going to like it. Plus, my family enjoys it, which is almost as nice as me enjoying it, lmao.
I do wish that I'd been taught how to cook when I was younger, but tbh my dad very rarely cooked — he wasn't taught how — and my mom's cooking was a lot of stereotypical white Midwestern-type tuna casseroles, spaghetti with canned marinara, etc. We had a lot of frozen microwave meals.
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in reply to calmblue75 • • •Netherlands, born in the 90s. My mom tried to teach me (maybe at like 15? Idk) but I basically refused because she had always done it and I didn't want to
Not saying I'm proud of that, just giving the data point you asked for exactly as it happened! I know that many other families handled this very differently, but that's what it was like for me
Of course, that meant catching up once I moved out ~4y later. Still hate cooking (and my gf hates it even more than I do, so the task falls to me) but I've only got one life and I have yet to find a place that sells healthy food that you can just shove down the gastrointestinal tract as-is... ^^'
kolmaskommentoija
in reply to calmblue75 • • •neidu4
in reply to 「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」 • • •I think not knowing how to cook is common when young. Today in my early 40's I'd say I'm pretty decent, but I was useless in my 20s.
What got me started was necessity due to all of a suddenly having kids. Trial and error.
What clicked was when I learned that being a half-decent cook didn't mean knowing recipes by heart (although I'm sure many do), but more generalized approaches that work well for various ingredients. If you know them oven temp for various stuff, the rest is mostly just preference when it comes to flavoring, and that's something you learn to measured with your heart over time.
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in reply to 「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」 • • •I wouldn't qualify it as a Gen Z thing. As a Xennial, I have a quite a few Gen Z coworkers and most of them actively talk about recipes and meals they're making and they are not just slapping some Mac and Cheese together and calling it. Some of the meals they're talking about cooking are fairly advanced. At least two have dedicated pizza ovens and make their own dough. A number of them are cooking involved multi-course meals I'd never have tried until I was in my late 30's... Hearing their recipes and such I'm fairly impressed on a regular basis.
I think it's more related to experience and available time and CASH. One of them has fallen a bit back into hello fresh, a few times a week, but they just had a kid, so no blame there.
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in reply to 「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」 • • •I'm a millennial who's just learning to cook, definitely not gen Z lol. I dated people that cooked but mostly it was out food, microwave food, and extreme basics like spaghetti that's noodles and jar sauce.
My parents both grew up extremely poor with both parents working. They didn't really get taught how to cook. And being poor meant, no extra money for anything with flavor. My parents spice cabinet had salt, a 5 year old container of pepper, and a probably older container of Italian seasoning. That's it.
For most of my life I thought I just didn't really like food until I moved out. We didn't have a lot of money either so we didn't really go out. Having my own job and living with other people meant I had money to go out and holy shit, out food was delicious! Never occurred to me until years later that, this could be made at home much cheaper if I just take the time to learn how.
「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」
in reply to CandyMountainCharlie • • •"Didn't like food" 😭
I remember thinking that instant raman noodles were delicious cuz mom was terrible at cooking and dad who knows how to make a few decent dishes was busy at work often times, and so the "good food" included
Average childhood in a poor immigrant Chinese family with parents that worked all the time
But um yeah I sure¹ can cook. Um... lets see:
(¹No I cant really cook unless you call these pathetic meals "cooking" 😅)
CandyMountainCharlie
in reply to 「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」 • • •Relatable! I'm learning, slowly lol. I picked up a Betty Crocker cook book, this one specifically (not sure why the cover art is missing it's the red cover with a spoon shape) and that's been pretty good so far. Lots of things in there about HOW to do things. And The Food Lab which if you like science and really understanding what you're doing, you'll love that book.
I've also subscribed to !cooking@lemmy.world, !homecooking@lemmy.world, and !baking@lemmy.world as well as a few alts of similarly named communities.
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in reply to 「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」 • • •Rice and eggs are the start of a million meals. You can toss veggies (whatever you like) in whatever sauce (soy, hoisin, teriyaki, oyster, etc) and throw it with the rice. You can add broth. You can add crunchy garlic or green onions.
Learn to hard boil eggs and you can marinade de-shelled ones for a few days in soy/onion/chilis and it pairs with it as well.
Our Asian supermarket has very large bags of Bok Choy for cheap, and that can be made in a ton of ways.
Jessica
in reply to 「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」 • • •I preach the gospel of the Instant Pot (stand alone pressure cooker) whenever I can. Can be had for <$50 on Marketplace. Stews, soups, ribs, and more. Make a big batch, eat for 3-5 days, then make something different. Kimchi Stew is my favorite thing ever. So many recipes for it are: dump a bunch of stuff in, set the time and press start. Crockpots are good too, but the Instant Pot cuts down on cook time substantially.
Burrito bowls: Airfry (a feature some Instant Pots have) boneless skinless chicken thighs, chop it up and put that over rice. Add corn and beans (from cans), some shredded cheese, taco sauce, prepped pico and guac, and sour cream. One of my fave things. Eventually you can make your own pico and guac.
Experiment with different seasonings on the chicken thighs to make it work in other dishes.
You can do this!
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in reply to lonefighter • • •I'm in an extremely HCOL area and the prices aren't that bad. Weekend meal 4 servings was <$15, three dishes + rice mix and match, including ribs, eggs, fresh veg (tomatoes, imported gai lan cuz I missed the stuff), etc. I am shopping discounts a lot but there's always something on sale which brings down the cost. Didn't take long to cook either. Gai lan took 90s to cook, eggs and tomatoes were around 5min, and the ribs were braised for an hour while I was doing other stuff. Meanwhile, the portions for something like Hello Fresh seem awful price-wise and they never have what I like.
Could it be the stuff you bought were all premade? That tends to rack up the price. I avoid the hot aisles unless its close to closing and there's steep discounts on everything.
Uhh... I mean I'm a fish. "Blub blub".
lonefighter
in reply to rainbow_trout • • •I got exactly what was listed, and I don't shop at a high end grocery story either. The only thing "premade" was the cup of soup and that wasn't hot, it was potato soup out of a refrigerated section and I only got it because that particular potato soup is banger.
Unless you want to consider a loaf of bread premade :)
Hegar
in reply to 「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」 • • •This is actually a problem at my work, that gen z do not know how to cook at much higher levels than others.
I work in residential mental health, so we have some cooking to do. The overwhelming majority of gen z co workers seriously struggle with anything more than heating up. It affects how we divy up job duties and caused issues when we tried to save money by doing more cooking in house.
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in reply to 「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」 • • •The Zoomers i know are either amazing cooks or can cook 1 meal but eat out 90% of the time. But for every one that can cook there are 3 that dont cook. I dont know a single millennial or gen xer who cant cook or couldnt cook at 16. I dont think the problem is universal to gen z. Its just an issue in wealthy urban populations.
Im not good with meal prep so I just heat up a frying pan throw some meat in, throw some veggies in and season it. Its quick, tasty and cheap. I rotate the meat and veggies so im always eating something different. I buy the veggies frozen and presliced so no prep or wastage.
Fondots
in reply to Fizz • • •Millennials here, can cook, and pretty much all of my friends are capable of at least basic cooking
But damn-near everyone I know who went to college and lived in a dorm has at least one story about the time the fire alarm went off because some kid who had never cooked for themselves didn't realize they needed to do something really basic like add water to Kraft Mac & cheese and smoked out the building.
Similarly, my sister (also a millennial, albeit a younger one) had a friend who didn't realize that after she (successfully) made some Mac & cheese, that the leftovers needed to be refrigerated. She had a Tupperware container of it sitting in her desk or something, and it stunk up her room a couple days later until my sister helped sniff out the problem.
Those are probably some of the more egregious examples, but you can pretty easily imagine that there were plenty more who couldn't manage or wouldn't attempt anything that didn't come out of a box or freezer with directions printed on the package.
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in reply to 「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」 • • •Gen Z has a basic competence issue apparently because everyone complains about their ability to do everything. Weaponized incompetence or whatever they are calling it. The good news when it comes to being able to cook is that anyone can figure it out for themselves. If you can make instant ramen noodles then you can cook.
I highly recommend anyone who wants to learn to cook get a hold of the Fannie Farmers CookbookFannie Farmer Cookbook find a used copy somewhere because $50 for a book first published in 1869 is friggin ridiculous.
This book is basically a reference book as well as a recipe book. It explains just about everything from measuring to prepping to storing things in your pantry. It is stuffed with recipes for basic things and then a bunch of recipes that build on those basics.
My mom was a lifelong food lover and taught herself to cook because her mom couldn’t. She had a library full of cookbooks from all over the world and through the ages. The only cookbook she gave me when I moved out was the Fannie Farmer Cookbook which is a tome to be sure. She told me it was the only one I would ever really need. Everything else is just recipes.
Gen Z, millennial, Gen X it doesn’t matter who you are it is flat out cheaper to cook your own food. If you are single then soups and casseroles are your buddy. If you make a different one every other day and freeze the rest you will have a constant supply of a variety of meals you can reheat at will so you don’t get burnt out. If you are a couple just about every meal feeds four which is dinner plus leftover lunch for the both of you.
I live in Houston, TX which is one of the most diverse food scenes anywhere with some of best restaurants for every kind of food and I can’t find a steakhouse that consistently makes a better steak than me. The closest I’ve come was from a guy selling steaks at a bar I used to go to 15 years ago. No one makes better pancakes than I do. I’ve never been hesitant to order pancakes when I’m out but I’m always disappointed and feeling ripped off. The difference is staggering. Pancakes are cheeeap and making them better costs next to nothing. The only restaurant food I buy is food I don’t make yet.
Stop giving your money to people who really don’t deserve it. Learn to cook. One thing at a time. Every success leads to more success. The knowledge you gain is for life. You pass some of it on and one day far in the future every human will be a master chef because what else is there to do?
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in reply to Potocobe • • •That's how my partner and I do it. Dinner tonight and leftovers for lunch tomorrow. Occasionally we make a larger batch of something and end up eating leftovers for dinner again.
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in reply to 「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」 • • •I'm personally a kind of mid-to-younger millennial (and a pretty damn good cook if I can toot my own horn)
I have a few friends who are a bit younger than me who are older zoomers. Those friends are all at least competent cooks, not necessarily amazing chefs, but capable enough to follow a recipe and feed themselves.
But the catch that should probably be mentioned is that most of those friends are guys I was in scouts with. They were the younger kids in my troop as I was aging out.
So, I (or one of my millennial peers) are at least partially the ones who taught them how to cook
And learning to cook in scouts is sort of a trial by literal fire- if you can make breakfast over a campfire, bake a cake in a Dutch oven on hot coals, etc. cooking with a regular stove or oven is kind of easy in comparison.
But anecdotally, my gen z coworkers do seem to be pretty clueless about cooking. But then again, I'm a poor judge of that because I do cook at a pretty high level and a lot of people seem kind of clueless to me in general, so I'm probably not the best judge.
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in reply to 「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」 • • •They're fine. We talk about cooking before class on occasion and my students tend to be pretty on top of that, and baking. This is especially true of women who take care of their siblings. Honestly, it's on par for the age, but there is one more unique aspect and that's reliance on Tiktok or IG for recipes.
That means that I'll sometimes run into people who love cooking but they're often making what's popular at the time. But... my cohort, millennials, aren't too different in using our online recipes. They're just a little less... creative, compared to what you see on Tiktok. Plus, video format is trash for cooking, but that's my own opinion.
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in reply to 「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」 • • •I call myself a cook, and my son a chef. I have a few dishes that I know so well that I just wing it on measurements. He creates dishes on vibes. He has this intuition about what he does. Part of that does come from his mom and I, but I think a lot of it comes from his maternal grandma.
I did not know how to do much “grown up” stuff when I moved out 20+ years ago. I don’t think this is a generational divide. If anything, Kids These Days™ have short form videos that they can lean on for cooking and even basic home maintenance. Car repair videos on YouTube are ubiquitous. They’ll be fine.
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in reply to 「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」 • • •I don't think it is a "idk how to cook" more than "i don't need to cook" problem. You don't need to know how to cook to survive when food delivery services is just one click away and if that is not your thing you can always takeaway or dine-in at the restaurant/shops instead.
I can cook, i enjoy cooking, i prefer cooking but sometimes i am lazy so i do takeout or dine-out instead. Most of the people i know don't know how to cook (by that i mean anything more than reheating precooked food, frozen food etc) if anything i am in the minority.
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in reply to littlebigbluebird • • •Is that a serious suggestion? Wouldn't that cost a fortune?
I hate to cook as much as anyone but when I look up food delivery, it's just way too expensive
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in reply to Fleppensteyn • • •Depends on where you live i guess. Over here cooking is only cheaper if you are eating the same thing for the entire week or if you are cooking for 4-5pax++ otherwise dine out/take out is the cheaper option.
As for food delivery it is free with a minimum order. (Can easily hit with main+dessert or side or just order an extra main for later) and every shop is on the app.
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in reply to 「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」 • • •I'm 27 and perfectly fine at cooking! But yeah, just like someone else here mentioning it's because I have a sibling who's 10 years younger than me so I basically raised them. I was cooking for the family by like age 12.
I don't know many people my age who blatantly don't know how to cook. My husband isn't the greatest at cooking with no recipe, but he can absolutely keep himself fed with the dishes he does know. He can even fry an egg, despite the fact I only let stainless steel pans in our kitchen.
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in reply to python • • •Ha, this is basically me. I count myself as a passable cook so long as I have a recipe to follow. I'm MUCH more limited if I have to improvise.
Fortunately for me, there are a lot of recipes available online.
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in reply to 「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」 • • •Both my kids are Gen Z and at least from my experiences talking to them and their friends, one of the big factors is no one taught them when they were young. I'm not talking anything formal, just helping out in the kitchen, chopping veg, grating cheese, whatever. Either their parents don't cook or they didn't let them be active participants in meal prep.
My kids however do know how to cook, as they've helped out since they were little. Learned from my own experience as a picky eater - get your kids involved in making stuff and you won't have to worry about them only eating chicken nuggets or whatever. Once they were teenagers, they got assigned meal prep once a week - they'd pick a recipe, help with the shopping, and make dinner (with help if they asked for it). And now they're both adults who can make their own food. It's shocking to me though how many in their generation just were never given the chance to learn the basics when they were young.
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in reply to 「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」 • • •Fun fact - Throughout much of recorded human history, there is evidence that much of the human population has relied on centralized food services and kitchens.
Not knowing how to cook is not as uncommon as people seem to think.
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in reply to Luc • • •I know this was a thing in ancient Rome. In theory it makes sense. Much more efficient than everybody having an entire kitchen in their home
Food in ancient Rome - Wikipedia
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in reply to Luc • • •For example, in medieval European cities, poor people didn't have space for kitchens in their home, so they went outside to get hot food. The main options where buying prepared street food or buying raw ingredients and having a someone bake them into a pie for you.
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in reply to 「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」 • • •I'm on the older side of Gen Z and absolutely love to cook (and consider myself pretty good at it). I don't really like meal prep though. Something fresh each day for dinner, and if there's time, lunch. I also try to source as much as possible (herbs, vegetables) from my terrace/"garden".
I'd say it's about 10% of the time trying a new recipe, 70% of the time just cooking from memory based on past recipes we liked (adapted for what's available, of course), and 20% just trying something new from scratch.
Food is also one of my biggest expenditures each month. We don't really eat out at all, but still. Good ingredients and not going by price in the supermarket is the main luxury I splurge on.
My younger brother is essentially the same, though a bit more budget-aware. He also cooks at least once a day. I quite often get pictures of his food, and it always looks delicious.
Funnily enough, we cook pretty differently, and both completely differently than our mom.
Friends in the same generation also all either like to cook, or, well, just cook.
So, can't exactly confirm your hypothesis. We're not US-American though.
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in reply to thinkingofyouihaveananxietydisorder • • •Luc
in reply to thinkingofyouihaveananxietydisorder • • •To be fair, I'm also seeing people spend crazy % of their income on housing. The lack of a kitchen might have other causes!
Fast food is (sadly) not the type of meal that's expensive. I doubt the proper meals my mom cooked (meat+potatoes/pasta+vegetables) in a kitchen are significantly cheaper than sticking a 3.5€ frozen pizza in an oven, whereas space for a stove, countertop, cupboards and everything is at least like 3x2=6m², × ~12€/m²/month = almost a month's worth of frozen pizza's :P
Not that I've actually ever seen living space without kitchen, maybe that's not as much of thing in western Europe
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in reply to 「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」 • • •I'm gen z. Cooking is difficult. I do it sometimes. My trick is throwing things I like into a pan and hoping they get better. It's easier with some things.
One tip I have is: Do not do thing concurrently. You will fail. Everything I do takes very long, and if I do two things at once it will be a Desaster.
A trick to make it more fun is listening to music or a podcast while you do it.
Also, many things you can get at the supermarket have instructions or suggestions about how to prepare them.
You don't have to do a whole range of things. It's okay if you can do one recipe and that's it for a start.
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in reply to k0mprssd • • •Sorry for the nitpick, but I think it's important to mention: you shouldn't be aiming to be full after every meal. You should aim to be satiated instead. If you try to feel full after every meal, your stomach will stretch out over the years and you'll eat more and more food to compensate, which can lead to getting fat.
This is already an issue for people that get gastric bypass surgery. Oftentimes their stomach ends up stretching back out to it's size before the surgery and they start gaining weight again.
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in reply to 「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」 • • •Just for context, a hell of a lot of Boomer men (and those men before them) could barely warm up a can of soup because cooking was women's'work, despite most "great" chef's being men at that time. Gen X men were a little better, but not by a lot. I'm Gen X for context.
It really only became widely desirable / fashionable for men to cook with the Millennials came along. Before then, the ladies were expected to learn how to cook from other ladies, but of course only some of them had role models to teach them.
tl;dr everyone cooking is a relatively recent phenomenon, and as all the commenters here say, it's a skill one needs to learn. Thanks for coming to my mini-TED talk.
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in reply to 「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」 • • •As far as I know cooking (and no, shoving something in a microwave is not cooking ) isn’t an ability you’re born with, you need to learn it from someone.
Yes, I do know Gen Z who cook. I even know Gen Z who meet up with friends to cook together. Not because “cooking is so easy”, most of them learned it from their parents, but that’s to be expected because where I’m from most people cook on a daily basis.
I guess it depends on where you’re from and whether cooking is a regular thing there, then you just learn it like you learn how to use the washing machine or the hoover.
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in reply to grober_Unfug • • •Cooking is different than using a washing machine. A washing machine is basically a "microwave that cleans your clothes"... as mean as in "put the stuff inside, press some buttons, and wait", well with just one extra step of adding detergent but yea the point is you dont have to actively monitor it through the whole process, and have some leeway after its "ready" (cuz food just gets cold, and your clothes dont start rotting unless you leave it in there for like 5 hours or something)
As for "where I'm from" oh yea kinda reminds me, my parents are from China and I think Chinese cruisine is just complicated as hell, cuz like one time I tried like stir-fry some beef dish already marinated and ready to cook, and like I try to do it from memory of watching dad cook, but it ended up like tasting a bit "off" vs how he normally cooks. And yeah I have no clue how the marinating works, they just put a bunch of weird sauces and its done too fast I cant even remember which bottles of sauces and I was standing too far away to see the label on them.
I could roughly make a Tofu dish thingy but its like barely 50% of how my dad made it, then I think he got older and in like a few years, food quality started to deteriorate too, I lowkey think he was just like omg why is my son so stupid, eh I dont even feel like cooking and so less effort got put into it cuz he was tired, tired of having kids lolol 💀
I think Asian households just creates a "distance" that makes it hard to be like "omg dad teach me how to cook" cuz if you mess up they're gonna have the Tiger Parent Death Stare.
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in reply to 「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」 • • •Not a gourmet 12 course meal. Just cook simply to feed yourself.
This is a basic skill.
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in reply to Zier • • •I don't disagree, but the number of things "every human needs to learn" has become utterly impossible.
Cooking, sure.
Cleaning and housekeeping, yeah, okay.
Managing your money, banks, pension, boring stuff. Ugh.
Media literacy (understanding author's biases, checking sources, etc.), uhh, getting pretty hard, but not learning this can end up destroying your life.
How to use a computer, and how to use Windows and MS Office in particular, because you're going to have to do that at some point whether you want to or not. Ugh, getting a bit tedious now. And the software keeps changing so you have to re-teach yourself every now and then.
Identifying scams and phishing, and what to do when you encounter one. That's a real tough one, and keeps getting harder faster because scammers continue to invent new tricks.
Politics. Gotta know a thing or two, and who to vote for (if you live in a democracy).
Detecting deepfakes and AI propaganda. Maybe count this under media literacy, but it's a totally new thing that everyone needs to know.
How to use public transportation. Can be really difficult in some places, and always very intimidating the first time you do it.
The list goes on and on and on. Every single human is expected to be Superman now. No, I refuse. Fuck that.
I'm shit at cooking. I will avoid cooking as much as possible unless my life depends on it. And I rely on my family and the society around me to keep me fed. I repay in other ways. I can fix just about anything around the house. And almost any computer trouble. My family relies on me to do those things.
I'm not surprised that people can't cook. The world is impossible to navigate.
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in reply to NeatNit • • •A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
-Robert A. Heinlein, 1973
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in reply to Zier • • •It's a massive distinction that nobody explained to me when I was a kid, too. 10% of the effort gets you 90% of the result. The gourmet shit, where you hunt for a million weird heirloom ingredients, is mostly a flex.
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in reply to 「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」 • • •I mean, where? Things like this depend entirely on your local culture and policies.
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in reply to MonkderVierte • • •I read that theres a global phemonmeon ranging all the way from US to China and im not sure if the mainstream media is right and kinda wanna hear annecdotes. But I'm gonna assume mainstream media probably excludes "poor" countries (since they dont have the luxury that "rich" countries have)
Apparantly this issue is even worse in China because of high tech (in terms of smartphones and app usage) combined with the labor is cheaper so Gen Z Chinese can afford delivery services to be used frequently.
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in reply to 「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」 • • •Vanth
in reply to 「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」 • • •To counter your anecdote with my own, not that I've seen. My Gen Z sister and her cohort of Z friends have a "chosen family" dinner every weekend where they come over and cook. One person takes lead, the rest help as needed, and almost every single one finds recipes and learns techniques from Instagram or TikTok.
They've come up with some crazy good dishes that I wouldn't have stumbled across via traditional cookbooks and more millennial + oriented websites. My sister also has much better and more varied techniques than I ever got the old way, learning from mother and other relatives.
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in reply to 「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」 • • •Is this really a thing? My kids regularly help with the coooing, they know meal prep, we have them sometimes cook entire meals for the family. I did the same as a kid, although it was largely due to having a single parent who often worked nights.
I can’t really imagine a human growing up without at least some culinary skills. Enough to feed themselves and have basic nutrition literacy anyway.
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in reply to 4grams • • •I found this Food Theory video right after I posted this: youtube.com/watch?v=fkLk1qGdnG…
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Food Theory: Why Gen Z CAN’T Cook
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in reply to 「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」 • • •Wild, I honestly hadn’t heard this before, but it really does make sense considering some of the hilariously novice cooking instruction videos that I’ve seen popping up recently.
I’m involved with scouting so most of the kids I know are a good bit more self sufficient than average I’m guessing.
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in reply to 「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」 • • •Multiple times as a child I had the sudden urge to cook something for fun, got up to prepare, and realized I don't know where my parents put which ingredients.
I did learn a decent amount when I lived away from parents for a while and could actually experiment daily now I knew where everything's stored.
But the gen Z housing crisis has hit me too and now I only know how to cook very basic stuff off the top of my head again.
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in reply to CultLeader4Hire • • •hmmm yea feels weird to talk to "Lemmy Uncles/Aunts" 😅 like my parents are probably about your age
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in reply to 「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」 • • •It's not that hard and can be a mindfulness exercise with the washing, cutting and other prep, and then cook it and smells delicious and enjoy the food when it's ready. It can be as healthy as you want. Ina Garten videos/books explain well and she's like a kind and helpful aunt! Mr. Money Mustache also has some good advice on food and nutrition and cutting costs too.
Stay under 25 g added sugars a day, have them after/with fiber, good fats and proteins to slow the sugar hit to the brain and liver. Check fasting insulin and C-reactive protein along with the usual checks to look for metabolic and inflammatory issues earlier. Homa-ir and TG/HDL are useful to check your health for your gender and age, before you need treatment for something. You can eat great, spend less and be healthier!
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in reply to 「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」 • • •I'm an elder millenial and my parents cooking consisted of 1) BBQ a piece of meat until it's real dry and 2) microwave a can of veggies.
I moved out early and in a pretty unsupported way, so I had to pretty much immediately figure out how to feed myself. I don't remember who pointed me to Budget Bytes but I'm pretty certain Beth pretty much taught me how to cook.
This is not paid, I just really love Budget Bytes. The recipes are generally pretty simple and approachable. They are obviously budget friendly. But most of all every single recipe has step by step pictures. if I don't know what a fine dice vs a mince is -- it's in the pictures. If I don't understand what spoon coating thick is -- also in the pictures. Last benefit: Beth would regularly make suggestions for additions or substitutions. Other commenters would say their favorite changes. There's a few contributors these days, but they all seem similarly good.
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in reply to alternategait • • •Stopped scrolling for Budget Bytes. Awesome website!
Yeah, come to think of it, old white people are the real offenders, there. Good food existed both before and during their time; it's not that they didn't have the chance.
That being said, canned veggies are an underrated ingredient.
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in reply to Xatolos • • •I think that isn't the issue. The problem is that "proper" food costs more than prefabs, and Cost-of-Living keeps growing while worker wages are stagnant. It is harder to afford perishable food that needs to be handcrafted, because that costs time, risks spoilage, and costs more for what it does.
Money is getting tighter, and consequently every loss feels worse.
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in reply to SabinStargem • • •I think it's probably a bit of both, skill being lost to parents having less time to cook and everything being more expensive.
The cheapest way I know of one can survive a very long time is rice and beans with any source of fat. I personally like peanut butter, but understand that's very much a US thing. But prepping beans over night requires having the time and know-how to do it.
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in reply to 「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」 • • •Hey, I'm Gen Z. Not everyone here is older. I do cook. Quite well. I can be a bit lazy tho and I'm poor. So it's simple cheap stuff usually. I like to get chicken or pork, put some chinese chilli sauce on it, and bake it until its crispy. Then maybe some sweet and sour on top. Another good simple sauce is soy sauce mixed with peanut butter and heated and stirred a bit. Rice with some yellow curry powder, msg, and dried onion/carrots while its cooking, then adding the juices from whatever meat you cooked at the end is pretty good. Red Thai Curry powder is also great and can go on almost anything. A lot of my diet is just whatever meat cuts are dirt cheap (usually chicken quarters or pork half loin), rice, potatoes, beans, and other dirt cheap stuff.
Edit: Also, for the time aspect. It's good to find meals that you can just let cook and don't need to be watched. Like I can throw chicken thighs in the oven with a potato, leave it at 375F for 1.5 hours then come back and they're both done and ready to eat. Not need to check on it. I can do other things in the mean time. Like chores. Altho, that specific one only works if you enjoy your chicken cooked to shit which I personally do. I like it cooked so much it falls off the bone.
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in reply to XiJinpingStanAccount • • •I'll start. I've been doing thighs with a gojujang, honey, soy sauce, powdered ginger mixture (eyeball it according to taste, don't add salt if you have the soy). I use a cast iron pan because you can throw it in the oven, render the fat side in the pan on the stove (cold pan, fat side down in cast iron, turn heat to med, let it sit for 10-12 minutes or more until it is browning noticeably, then flip, hammer them with that sauce, throw it in a 375 oven and let it go 35 minutes (In your case an hour or more, that does seem like a lot). I pull them after about 25 minutes, sauce them again and crank the oven to 450, for the last 10 minutes.
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in reply to cranakis • • •I'm not really a strict recipe person. I have like general things I'll do but I mix it up and just kinda use what I have laying around. The Chinese chilli sauce i mentioned I'm just realizing is Thai not Chinese. Since I checked the back lol. It's Ox Brand Ground Red Chili Sauce. It's like ground up chilis and still has the seeds. I just let it bake into a crust on the chicken since all the water evaporates. If you were doing like a chicken thigh for example I'd get the sauce under the skin before baking it. Then on the skin just add a tad more. Like a glaze. The sweet and sour sauce depends if your big on sweetness or not. It's more like an on the side at the end thing. So like I'll do that stuff but then I'm also just kinda tossing whatever spices I have around on there too.
Another thing you can do that is really good is go to an asian foods market and see if you can find fresh red chilis. They will sell big bags of them. Then you can freeze those and cut them up as needed. Then toss them into some hot oil (like a neutral oil) to make a nice hot chili oil. Which can be used on lots of stuff. Try to find things that look like this:
If you want the Thai Red Curry powder I mentioned you can try this. It's very good.
Basically any of these spices/sauces will make chicken taste great. But be aware I'm a big fan of spicy so some of this stuff is too spicy for a lot of people. I'm not really able to gauge what is super spicy and what isn't. I will eat something and not even think its spicy then someone else is acting like they're gonna die. And even to me the fresh chinese red chilis are noticably spicy. The others not so much.
Edit to say I looked it up and I think the Chilis I get are called Thai Bird's Eye Chilis.
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in reply to 「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」 • • •When looking at younger people who don't know how to cook, it's not about them being stupid - someone failed them. Yes, to your point, cooking is easy. A rice cooker, a single pan, you can make a great meal...
But no one ever mentioned what temp to cook chicken at. What the hell's a 4 (out of 10) and how much oil (or how little) should I use? Rice cooker comes with instructions and lines but that just makes plan rice - at least Zatarans has some flavor.
I learned how to cook a grilled cheese as a kid... And I hate cheese.
Then I was working in kitchens for seven years. So, yeah, I've got a leg up on people who've literally never cooked a meal for one, let alone 1,500 over a lunch period. It's hard to 'learn' to cook entirely by yourself because fucking up your meal means not having anything to eat.
It's not just Gen Z because no one taught their parents and Gen Z will probably fuck up their kids the same.
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in reply to cranakis • • •I’m great at both, and they feel pretty similar to me. Never understood this attitude, personally.
I’ve been a professional cook and worked in bakeries. It’s all just kitchen work. Lots of “cooking” recipes end up in the oven at some point, lots of “baking” requires prepping various ingredients on the stovetop. Also hot take but most home bakers aren’t even very precise. Pros measure by weight, not volume, and adjust the heat and bake time based on ambient humidity and temp…
People just lack experience, IMO with some reading and practice, any good baker can be a good cook and vice versa.
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in reply to 「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」 • • •I usually don't do much in the way of actual cooking. I use a Ninja Grill Airfryer XL - I just throw corndogs, breakfast sandwiches, polish dogs, ect, in there and have an affordable meal. I mostly buy my air fryer grub from Costco. I typically cook Tyson sausage patties alongside the sandwiches, to make it more complete for me.
I also like bowl ramen, Kraft Macaroni, and Bibigo rice bowls. For the ramen, Better than Boullian jars from Costco adds extra chicken or beef flavoring.
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in reply to SabinStargem • • •As a person who cooks, I say you are cooking at this point. Throw some leftover meat in that ramen too, chopped up at the bottom of the bowl, or even lunchmeat in strips. My son's favorite is mac and cheese with a hotdog chopped up in it. Put some black pepper on it and call it gourmet 😜
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in reply to 「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」 • • •I'm a single, Gen-x male and I despise cooking. Twenty minutes to prepare something, five minutes to eat it, and then another 20 minutes to clean up afterwards is, IMO, the most insanely inefficient use it my time.
Frankly I have better things to do. when a pill comes out that I can just pop in my mouth a couple of times a day I will be the first person in line.
For now, sadly, the best I can do it keep things as simple and as easy as possible prep wise (or order in... which gets to financially prohibitive sometimes)
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in reply to 「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」 • • •I'm a millennial and I didn't learn how to do more than scrambled eggs, pasta (ramen included) and meatloaf until I was 25. Maybe boxed recipes too. I didn't have the money to really cook myself anything fancy. And I grew up with two parents who could cook so I really only had the poverty excuse and even then not a great excuse.
I think gen z will figure it out eventually. Tutorials are everywhere
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in reply to 「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」 • • •I'm a Genz but I cook sumptuous meals
What's their excuse for not doing so
The men in the house what do you think about this cuz it's freaking me out so yh
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in reply to 「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」 • • •Anecdotally, one of the best cooks I know is gen Z. In general though, I think this is part of the predictable result of not teaching anything like home ec anymore for decades.
I don’t meal prep because the meals are rarely as good after 5 days lol. I try to cook simple foods for breakfast (oatmeal, or bagel and cream cheese), and make sandwiches to take to work for lunch. Dinner is something like pasta with sausages and a side of veggies (99% of the time for me, that’s garlic and kale fried together in a skillet).
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in reply to 「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」 • • •I don't think it's a generational issue, just young people. Once you get kids you'll learn to cook.
Maybe there are more singles and child free people or they take longer to settle down or whatever.
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in reply to 「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」 • • •From my own experience, I had to learn it all by myself, mostly online videos and recipes. I very vividly remember living on my own for a couple of weeks and deciding to cook some fresh food instead of frozen dinners and pizza. I actually called my mom to ask how to cook broccoli cause I had no clue.
You just boil that shit how did I not know? I was never told
I like to think I'm a pretty good cook now. YouTube really is a invaluable source of cooking info
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in reply to 「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」 • • •Yes, it's universal. There isn't a single millennial or gen Z person that knows how to cook in the entire world. This will finally put an end to our species.
On our tombstone it'll say "here lies humanity, fallen victim to shitty parents who didn't think to teach their children how to cook."
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in reply to Leon • • •Disagree on the shitty parents part. For some, yes, but for others they are probably shitty cooks too. If my culinary education is any indication of that, there are ~20 family recipies that I have notes of or have done myself and my folks keep a small box of note cards written by their grandparents in the "we will run into a burning building to get this" box. They are instructions, not study material, and thats how I learned a patchwork of skills, but nothing formal.
I was never taught the science of "how the fuck to make bread" or "what alchemy mayo is", that is something ive had to actually study myself (thanks anerican schools). I feel the defect is education on why we cook things the way we do, the basic building blocks are not taught by default to a level where people are confident in building something on their own.
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in reply to Bahnd Rollard • • •I had a friend who was completely incapable of doing pretty much anything for themselves because their parents always insisted on doing everything for them, and berated them when they tried for themselves. They're now in their 30s and have a breakdown any time they have to do anything, and frequent depressive episodes because they lack agency and self-worth. So there definitely are parents out there who completely fail their kids.
My mother was a terrible parent in the other direction. The expectation was on me to do everything as soon as possible. I was cooking full meals on my own by six, and when we moved countryside I was the firekeeper, in charge of the entire supply line of stacking, chopping, and transporting wood, to cleaning and ensuring the fire was kept in our boiler by eight.
I don't think parents need to teach about gluten formation, how it traps gases and makes the bread rise, or emulsions. Just foundational knowledge so that they're able to explore that and take a keener interest should it strike them.
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in reply to Modern_medicine_isnt • • •I think my secret is to do simple meals in batches. That way you only really cook once or twice a week.
For instance, my favorite meal is a tomato pasta thing, don't know what it is called.
Dice up as much garlic as you want, fry this in oil, add 4 cans of crushed tomatoes, as much black pepper as you want, bay leaves and then cook until boiling. Remove bay leaves and add to pasta. Boom! your done. Can feed me for a week and for about $5-$6 of ingredients. I also add nutritional yeast for extra pep to it, but you can just do cheese if you roll that way.
Home cooking doesn't have to be complex but it does take motivation to get started.
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in reply to 「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」 • • •I went through the pandemic and came out with a passion for making tasty things. It is probably a result of the combination of my being cheap, hungry for tasty things, and hungry to understand how things are made. But yeah I can cook.
Learning to cook takes time, energy, and willingness to endure repeated failure (or just a sub-par result). In contrast, packaged food requires only money and has the bonus to some of being approximately the same every time. One also needs a kitchen to muck about in, and a lot of my peers haven't had access to that after moving out and may not have been too involved with cooking before that.
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in reply to 「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」 • • •The first few zoomers I think of cook just fine. Although, there's one that undercooks everything, because she's impatient. A couple are actual foodies who will put serious effort in.
What exact age group are you thinking of? Teenagers haven't really had much time to learn.
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Nothing is better than practicing. On the fly is fine, repetitions help. Others have said as much. :))
If the Taiwan flag in your avatar is an indicator for location, go ask grandma for tips, or go to any night market for cheap, varied food. Cheap and convenient. If that fails, there's a 7/11 near you I'm sure.
Don't fall into the trap "which kitchen appliance to buy". Buying isn't the first thing to learn here.
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