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Bonsoir/Bonjour everyone and welcome to today's #checkin. Happy Independence Day to the US peeps. Today we visited the beautiful city St. Malo at the city, surrounded by battlements/fortress walls and beautiful little streets. It was the city of Corsairs, which are just pirates with an official letter from the King. Unfortunately, the city was heavily bombed by both the Germans and later on the allied forces in WWII. However, the residents decided to rebuilt it according to the original plans.

The cool thing is that it was easily reachable by train. A one-hour train trip was just like €16 per person and the ticket is valid for the whole day, so you can take other trains as well. And a day pass in Paris for metro/bus/tram etc. costs €13. That's pretty cheap.
The city of Rennes operates two autonomous metros that run every few minutes and wants to increase the frequency even more into one metro every minute.

So how is public transport in your city? Do you have a bus system/metro/tram/subway?

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in reply to Christoph S

I've been to St. Malo! Fun place. When I was there, there was a ferris wheel where on the top we could see out above the city view. It was magical!
We have middlin'-fair public transport here in Phoenix; some buses and a light rail that people use regularly. Could be better. It's so hot here I wish we had a complete grid of underground public transport away from the heat!
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Lots of subways, buses, and trains here. But there are still spots with poor service, and plans to build more.
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my locale has free buses, but the frequency is sometimes not adequate.
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Our buses are definitely NOT free. Though the man who would be mayor wants them to be. We shall see.

Forgot, we also have ferries. The ferries are pricier, but quite pleasant on a nice day.

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Here in Tacoma WA, we have a light rail that is smallish, but cuts through a sizable part of the downtown. Also, lots 'o buses.
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We have city buses, but it seems that only black folks and a few elderly people use them. They don't go anywhere I need to go, so I drive. We also have an on-demand "short bus" system for people with disabilities. I have friends who occasionally call an Uber... but I personally don't feel safe as a woman alone getting into a car with a stranger.
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There is a rail line running from the mainline at Pajaro/Watsonville up through Santa Cruz and thence to Davenport ... however it is in terrible shape.

There are efforts to resurrect it back to operating as a passenger service - light rail cars (probably hydrogen powered), ground level boarding, but quite infrequent (30 minute gap.)

There is a war between the bicycle people who want to pave over the tracks so that our local Jefs can race up and back (regular bike riders don't count much around here) and that effort is led by people with an interest in the bike rental business - not small companies, think Uber. Never heard of "big bike" before? We've got it, and they want to leave us with only gung-ho bike and highway on traffic jams.

There are some real issues - like that the bridges over the coastal creeks (and there are a lot of those) are really old and in bad shape - the estimate price tag is on the order of a few $billion to get the rail line up and running. That seems excessive to me, but when amortized over many decades it is a lot cheaper than ever expanding our one main highway.

We do have a decent bus system - it runs all the way from the border with Monterey county up to the San Mateo county border. And there is a quite popular run over highway 17 to San Jose.

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I live just outside of a group of small cities. The region has Metro which reaches out to the suburbs, but has few lines, so stations are few the farther from the center. I'm lucky to have a station about 1km from the house. Easily walkable by me.
The county and WMATA ( Washington Metropolitan Area Transit Authority ) runs buses that fill in between stations and feed Metro stations and other 'areas of commerce and interest'. During rush hour wait times are not bad, but off rush the wait times can be 1/2 hour or more. Transfers between county and metro are possible. The nearest city ( 3km ) has their own Dash bus as well as a wheeled 'trolly' for tourists. So potentially a person could take a county bus to a metro station where a city bus could take them closer to their destination. Three modes in just a few miles, each with it's own schedule and fare system. It can take hours to go just a few miles.
I take Metro when I think it is the best way, cost time, or ease.. Parking at or near many venues can be very expensive and a rail fare might jut be a few dollars each way. But Metro can take a lot longer due to transfer to different lines. A 30 minute drive in traffic can take over an hour, just in that mode. Thankfully hours have been extended and most of the deferred maintenance is finally done so it's more reliable. For a while Metro could get you to Here a shuttle bus would get you to the next open station. Repeat on the way home. A 10mile (16km ) Metro trip suddenly would take an hour one way and 1.5-2 hours on return ( after an 11pm+ show completion, ugh ).
In DC there is LRT, but it's more for show than go. Similar attempts have been made in Maryland with huge cost overruns mostly caused by anti rail activist ( astroturf ) lawsuits.
The only thing that has been built in years are more Toll roads paralleling congested highways. They Always get approved, always.
in reply to Christoph S

If we want to get to Chicago or to Springfield and don’t want to brave the very crowded interstates, we have a Metra station in town. The trains are pretty reliable. I have no real reason to use it.
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Melbourne generally does a superb job of servicing its population with public transport. The city has the unenviable job of connecting everyone from a central business district outwards in a radial fashion.

Given the constraints of the Puget Sound and the Cascade mountain range, Seattle grew as a city in a north-south fashion. This makes it much simpler to transport people from the east and west to a central transport corridor. Melbourne Australia is an exponential problem--and yet they take it on quite well!

The fares here are cheap and in the central business district all buses and trams are FREE!

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We have light rail that hits the big spots like Downtown, Old Town, Mission Valley, SDSU, UCSD, and within a short bus ride from the beach and bay. It even goes out to east to La Mesa and Santee. South through National City, Chula Vista and San Ysidro, ending a short walk from the border.
Bus service is regular though not that frequent, though it does cover most areas in town. Amtrak heads north every couple of hours beginning at 4 in the morning and ending at 9pm. I can be in Orange County in 2 hours and Los Angeles in around 3.
Cool part, is I can take my bike on the trolley, and certain bus lines. I can take it to UCSD, ride through Torrey Pines, Del Mar, Solana Beach, and points north. I could ride all the way to Carlsbad, and then take the train back to Santa Fe Depot, which is across the street from a trolley station.
From Carlsbad Village Station, you can take light rail to Escondido.
Only shortfall, is there is no light rail spur from Escondido back into San Diego, and worse, there is no rail to the air port. How big an oversight is that?
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We also have VRE, a commuter rail that comes in from several outer suburbs up to about 40 miles away, but focused on rush hour. Maryland also has their MARC commuter rail. We also have Amtrak service up the NW corridor as well as south. I prefer the Amtrak Acela to go to NY and Boston. although the regular service is functional. Acela is as close to high speed rail as you can get outside of a couple of shorter lines in Fl.
Traveling south on Amtrak requires a "We'll get there" sort of attitude. It is slow. There is an Autotrain that snowbirds use to get to Florida with a car, sans driving there. That starts a few miles from here.
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Philly also tends to be pedestrian hostile...esp now.
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@Rod Mesa "...and worse, there is no rail to the air port. How big an oversight is that?"

Not an oversight! Melbourne has this problem as well. And every time the city government considers putting in a train line to the airport, the private bus and tax companies scream blue bloody murder that they would be robbed of their livelihood!

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We don't have train to the airport either! Any of them.
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Today was as happy for me as witnessing the violent murder of a loved one. I slept, watched cartoons and mourned the loss. It's better if the holiday was renamed to "homeland day" or something more appropriate.
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We don't have public transit here. There was a study done and the best system for s city is size would be an in demand system. It only works because the city is small enough. I think the group I volunteer with may try to find funding for the non-profit that provides transportation for seniors.
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Even Germany has public transportation to at least all major airports like Frankfurt or Munich. Some of the smaller regional ones may have a bus operating there, for example in Paderborn.
Before the World wars, Paderborn used to have a tram going through the city and even further. But with the advent of cars it was demolished.
A lot of train tracks were dismantled as well, however there are plans to resurrect some of them. But that takes ages
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This all reminds me of the time a friend who lives in the suburbs of New Jersey told me friends of hers (from Germany) were going to come visit. She suggested they rent a car to get around. They merrily (and foolishly) said, "no we'll just take public transit." There is none.
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Yeah in many parts of Germany the same. You are lucky if there is a bus at all.
For the festival here in Janzé which is like half an hour by car from Rennes we found someone who does a carpool because there's no bus or train late in the evening
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There's a bus stop at the end of my street. It's a short walk, and I can take a bus there to the transit center, which is shy of a mile away, within 15 minutes. That's a 20 minute walk or a 6 min bike ride, which I prefer.
Bikes are the most efficient mode of transportation. Mine run on tacos.
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All that said, my standard mode of transport is feet. They run on library books.
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My feet run on Hoka exercise shoes!
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€13 for a day pass sounds pricey to me. Our local (vastly inferior to Paris) system is a week for about that price.

I thought Baltimore transit was a joke til I moved to Florida.

The transit system here is evolving. Between the time we started house-hunting here ~8 years ago and now, almost 4 years (!!) into our residence, the buses went from airport shuttle type to actual full-size transit buses. Well, smallish as transit buses go, but you know what I mean. The line we live off of goes to the local transit hub, which is Walmart 🤨 If only I could wrap my brain around a bus schedule, I could get places in times of vehicle breakdown 🫤 but then buses are peopley, meh.

I wonder if they ever added the outlet mall to the bus route? Yes, really, the county council actually had a debate about it. You know your local culture is car-centric when they slap up a huge commercial development nowhere near residences, then don't grok why the bus needs to go there.

We also have door-to-door disability transit—which I should probably sign Mr. Stranger up for at some point. They seem to want official documentation we don't have yet. Plus you have to request rides in advance, which is not a thing I'm good at.

On the other side of the county, there is light rail that goes into and beyond the nearest "big" city (Orlando). There is an occasional bus from one side of the county to the other, but I'm not sure if they go all the way out to the train station (shared with Amtrak) yet. At the Orlando end, they are working on a connection to the high-speed rail that goes to Miami and will eventually go to Tampa. Yes, that same rail system that is stonewalling the workers' union.

10 or 15 years ago, we would have looked forward to jumping on a train and taking a day trip. Now that it's close to fruition, we're in no condition to attempt it. sigh

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The ferries are pricier


Mamdani made a remark that sounded like the ferries were free 🤔 now I wonder what he really meant

the estimate price tag is on the order of a few $billion to get the rail line up and running. That seems excessive to me, but when amortized over many decades it is a lot cheaper than ever expanding our one main highway.

The only thing that has been built in years are more Toll roads paralleling congested highways. They Always get approved, always.


SO MUCH THIS
roads vs. trains is more or less the equivalent of war vs. healthcare/arts/housing/food—seems there's always money for the former but never the latter

and, at least around here, when they get arm-twisted into rail, it's designed to fail—limited frequency, and little night/weekend service

Baltimore is decidedly pedestrian-hostile.


YEP... and the burbs are worse

Traveling south on Amtrak requires a “We’ll get there” sort of attitude. It is slow. There is an Autotrain that snowbirds use to get to Florida with a car, sans driving there. That starts a few miles from here.


indeed, I hopped a Silver whatever (one of 2 similar routes) from Orlando to DC, and it was about 20 hrs (contrast: back in the days before Acela, I got from Bmore to Boston in about 6h)
however
hopped the other Silver whatever coming back—vaguely similar overall time, but woke up in the middle of the night and it seemed like we were going kinda fast—got informed by Mr. Stranger, who was following along online, that we were doing 120 😳

so, slow, and yet... not 😬

we had to pull over quite a bit for freighters and the auto train, not to mention stopping at every little station along the way (and a water on/sewage off stop in Jacksonville... and mass bathroom cleaning, because people are pigs who don't understand/care that unflushed toilets slop out on a moving vehicle... we were down to like one usable bathroom in 3 cars or something)

side note—I think MARC is below Amtrak on the pull-over totem pole, which explains a lot

I have not yet tried the auto train, mostly due to pets

there is no rail to the air port. How big an oversight is that?”
Melbourne has this problem as well.
We don’t have train to the airport either! Any of them.


ok I take back what I said about Baltimore... the train is not exactly convenient to the airport, but it's on the premises—and they also have a bus that runs to a DC Metro station

There was a study done and the best system for s city is size would be an in demand system.


the county we moved away from just announced that they are keeping only a handful of main-drag bus lines and switching mostly to on-demand

our current county is trialing an on-demand system on the other side of the rural divide—I doubt they'll open that can of worms here in tourist-land

in reply to Christoph S

There is public transportation in my location. Not great but not non-existent. As the country continues to deteriorate I expect less and less public transportation and more homeland security papers please on what remains to keep unwealthy and especially Brown skinned Americans isolated and oppressed.
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(I'm just stealing this from @Muse - I sense a common pattern.)

@Rod Mesa "...and worse, there is no rail to the air port. How big an oversight is that?"

Not an oversight! Berlin has this problem as well. And every time the city government considers putting in a train line to the airport, the private bus and tax companies scream blue bloody murder that they would be robbed of their livelihood!

> Do you have a bus system/metro/tram/subway?

All of the above, and ferries too. 9,60€ or something for a day pass.

Why are you asking we also get without asking for it consisttently ill-fated industry phantasies of maglev trains and such that did not materialize 30 years ago, and never will.

@Muse
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The other chapter to Berlin is, when the current airport was being planned 3 effing decades ago, it had not yet spawned its own genre of jokes, but the initial plan was to extend a given subway line first (handful of km extra, no big deal, connectivity for cheap) so it would be ready when the thing opened.

Part of the joke is the construction companies deliberately delayed getting the airport right so the subway could acually be ready in time for the opening, but... ummm no. Instead we have ride dealers convincing clueless tourists inside the terminal to book an all inclusive 60€ private minivan ride into the city when the common train service is just two storey below the main terminal and one journey would be 4,20€. Sigh.

The new head of our local transportation authority just last week said "service reliability and network stability above all else. Oh, and we are indeed still planning for the subway extension to the airport" - ask me again in a couple years if there was progress. Normal trains will do in the meantime and new connections are up very soon, for real.

Just not this dotted blue line one.