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This is why I have been trying to warn about #BlueSky.

BlueSky has just been partially bought by a cryptocurrency company "Blockchain Capital" and appointed a blockchain / cryptocurrency expert to their board:

bsky.social/about/blog/10-24-2…

The board member is a bitcoin researcher involved with NFT analytics.

BlueSky describe the tie-up with Blockchain Capital as a "natural partnership" and says the blockchain company has "a uniquely deep understanding of our decentralized foundation".

(via @jwz)

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p.s. A number of people have pointed out that the current CEO of BlueSky is also from a blockchain/cryptocurrency background:

2015 - Engineer at blockchain company SkuChain

2015 - Worked assembling bitcoin mining equipment

2016 - Developer on Zcash cryptocurrency

2019 - Happening Inc founder (cannot find any trace of this, no idea if it involves blockchain)

2021 - CEO of BlueSky

Also, the current BlueSky board seems to be three people: two blockchain experts and one non-blockchain person.

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Just another corporation. Been saying that all along but some people block and "report" me for the truth.

Truth haters are welcome to block me but reporting me to the admin is useless because I AM an admin on Beamship πŸ˜‚

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youtu.be/bn6YnUt4Vuk
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LOL. Where does the corporate apology industry come up with these fake descriptions? A social networking company needs a "natural partnership" with a cryptocurrency company, like a fish needs a bicycle.

The absurdity and betrayal of customers is typical of private equity, not a responsible social networking company that claims to honor its customers' privacy.

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While true, the team in that article also state that they "will not hyperfinancialize the social experience (through tokens, crypto trading, NFTs, etc.)"

I do hope that this remains true, as the more alternatives to the bird site, the better. A lot of people still see Mastodon as too isolated, which is fair.

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@sirsean ah... they will not "hyperfinancialize", oh that's reassuring! Maybe they will just "superfinancialize the social experience", or maybe just "financialize the social experience" for starters! Or maybe they're gonna go all in and "ultrafinancialize the social experience"! So many opportunities! /s
@Sean
in reply to Fedi.Tips

When I last checked, you still needed a cell phone number to start an account.
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Thanks for posting this - I've been seeing cryptic Bluesky related posts all day, but had no clue what they were about. Now the other shoe has dropped! Not surprised, wasn't this all built by Mr Twitter? Why would it be any better the second time around?
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Love that bit about how they won't "hyperfinancialize" the site, which I can only assume is something distinct from merely turbofinancializing or ultrafinancializing it.
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Siiiigh. I've been resisting getting a Bluesky account for a long time, but recently had begun to reconsider as they seemed active and nothing too bad had happened. But now the other shoe has dropped. They crumbled before my resolve did.
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This won't shock anyone who's been paying attention. Their CEO Jay Graber comes from crypto.
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β€œdecentralized” yeah, ok. Run an even slightly out of date codebase and you’re SOL.
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I wish they'd stop calling BlueSky "decentralized". Having multiple instances doesn't cut it; if one single corporate entity owns every possible endpoint on your network, it's not decentralized.
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I think it is funny that after the enshitification of facebook, twitter, google, youtube, etc. we still haven't learned a damn thing.
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good thing I heeded the warnings (here and elsewhere) and never even considered Bluesky!
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From what I gather in the comments, it seems the users are okay with it as long as there are no actual crypto stuff and no ads. Not a high bar to clear, but when your other experience is with Twitter, you'd take what you can get.

The Fediverse is still the more optimal choice, but overall I'm more cautiously optimistic about Bluesky rn. It's interesting to see how it will sustain itself in the future without succumbing to ads, and maybe there's lessons to learn from it too.

in reply to Fedi.Tips

There is no perfect social media experience.

I just find surveillance capitalism an instant turn-off which is why I avoid corporate-controlled sites.

I never got on bsky because I learned from my Twitter experience.

So far, the only issue with Mastodon has, occasionally, been other people. For me, that’s stayed at a manageable level.

If it ever becomes untenable, welp, social media ain’t necessary for my survival. πŸ€·πŸ½β€β™‚οΈ

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"I hate how Twitter got sold to a fascist, so now I'm going to join a new platform started by the guy who sold Twitter to a fascist."
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Sir I am a Blockchainian Prince. I am reaching out to you to help move my cryptocurrency fortune out of the country from a frozen account.
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how many times do we have to learn the lesson that private companies should never control a public good?
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Ok but "This does not change the fact that the Bluesky app and the AT Protocol do not use blockchains or cryptocurrency, and we will not hyperfinancialize the social experience (through tokens, crypto trading, NFTs, etc.)."
So this isn't as bad as people make it out to be. Is the lack of information in the post an act of fearmongering? Possibly. Read your news, people!
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If - IF! - they follow through on their commitment to a fully-federated system, providing the missing bit (taking your followers with you if you move server) I won’t worry about it. But as you can probably guess, I’m not confident they will ever get to it. I’ll be happy if they do, but I’m not holding my breath.
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yes, that was to be expected.

I’m glad that Mastodon is licensed under AGPL, because that makes it much less likely to be proprietarized (as long as a diverse enough group of people contributes).
@jwz

@jwz
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Everyone who read this post and responded with, "This is just FUD, the press release clearly said they would NOT do hyperfinancialization, you are overreacting, here is a link to primary journalistic sources, I am very smart" --
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The majority of replies to this thread is why people don’t want to use Masto.
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the initials of BlueSky are the same as those of bullshit. Coincidence ? I think not !
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Companies claiming to have 'uniquely deep understanding' sounds very nefarious to humans I know.
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So business as usual? BS has always been very crypto friendly so this isn't shocking.
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If Mastodon is so much better than Bluesky, then explain this
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Actually, they weren't bought out partially, just some A series funding stuff, but as the blog says, they won't make it into a crypto based thing, so I don't see any reason for anyone to worry about it, Bluesky is a perfectly fine service, and if they also implement federation, that will make it better.
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Yeah, Bluesky is not worth it. Just more tech bros in power. Plus, their attempts to filter content are laughable and are often self defeating.

But I need to know, WTF is an "NFT Analyst"?!? Seems like a pretty simple gig, tbh. I think Keanu Reeves showed that he nailed the job requirements here:

youtu.be/h0-fYXR3M2o?si=oaZENy…

#nfts #keanureeves #bluesky

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Important context though:

This does not change the fact that the Bluesky app and the AT Protocol do not use blockchains or cryptocurrency, and we will not hyperfinancialize the social experience (through tokens, crypto trading, NFTs, etc.).


I don't like it either but I think it's important that people understand that Bluesky isn't running on the blockchain or going to implement NFTs.

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BlueSky writes in the announcement:
"Our lead, Blockchain Capital, shares our philosophy that technology should serve the user, not the reverse β€” the technology being used should never come at the expense of the user experience".

Ah, the user experience! Meta (or any other big-tech company in the surveillance capitalism league) would probably come up with a simular statement if asked ...!

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I really wanted to try hosting a Bluesky PDS, but I think I'll just stick with the Fediverse.
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Seriously. This is the worst. Every time I say, 'It isn't so bad' this week, life tacks on another pack of bullshit like this. I seriously tire of life right now.
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whatever, they deserve to be duped again, we'll still be here whenever they're ready.
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"bitcoin researcher involved with NFT analytics." sounds like the biggest bullshit job on the planet.
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So which network is worse, the crypto-friendly one actually investing and working on functional Trust & Safety features, or the one who federated with Meta and still doesn't have a limited reply function?

(Real talk, I don't know the answer to this question)

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No surprises here. Bsky scored very high on my enshittification bingo card since day one, but there's no need to go through the whole list. The most important parts:
- Is it closed source? Yes (partially).
- Is it for-profit? Yes.
- Is it centralized? Yes.

Such projects turn into garbage very fast these days. Historically, the process was much slower (although the end result was the same).

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@mynameistillian "Just one more centralized social media platform bro it won't enshittify trust me bro just one more twitter clone"
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Given the original executives' live for crypto, this just seems like a continuation of that through line?
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I didn't think that they were privacy respecting in the first place lol

They've always looked sketchy to me

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Who’s bread you eat, their songs you will sing.
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It's a natural partnership. Bluesky needs money and Blockchain Capital is willing to give them money.
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jwz
@toriver @skykiss The "same mistakes" that Blockchain Rasputin was talking about were "banning Nazis" and "having moderation at all". jwz.org/b/ykQM
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@xinit @lori @sirsean Sadly full account portability would require public key cryptography which was dropped in one of the Mastodon updates and was barely supported to begin with.

It's also why Bluesky went with a new protocol instead of ActivityPub.

That portability only works if follows, posts, likes and reposts aren't tied to domains and are instead tied to cryptographic keys.

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@skykiss Jack Dorsey left the Bluesky company board in May, saying that it was making the same mistakes as Twitter.
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@lori full account portability would be nice, especially if there were a way to trigger it securely should an instance shit down spontaneously.

@sirsean @FediTips @jwz

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