Hubzilla Hub?
Oh well... I've started my Hubzilla hub on https://silverhaze.eu/ some months ago and I'm already the 7th largest Hubzilla hub according to: https://the-federation.info/hubzilla
Some weeks ago I also started my Mastodon instance on https://nerdculture.de/ which is still quite small.
But somehow Hubzilla seems to be a little awkward or strange in my eyes. For a public hub some features are missing in my eyes. For example a user quota for uploaded files. I do miss that feature in Friendica as well, but the situation in Hubzilla is worse, because you can also enable generic websites, WebDAV, generic Files etc. in Hubzilla. It's more like "one size fits all" approach. If you don't have Nextcloud, you can use Hubzilla. If you don't have a blog, you can use Hubzilla. etc.
But I never got really warm with Hubzilla. One main advantage in my eyes is that it can run on PostgreSQL as a database.
So, I'm thinking of shutting down my Hubzilla hub at the end of the year to give the users enough time to move away...
But maybe I haven't understood #hubzilla yet and missed some points? If so, please shout and convince me to continue my hub... 😀
Some weeks ago I also started my Mastodon instance on https://nerdculture.de/ which is still quite small.
But somehow Hubzilla seems to be a little awkward or strange in my eyes. For a public hub some features are missing in my eyes. For example a user quota for uploaded files. I do miss that feature in Friendica as well, but the situation in Hubzilla is worse, because you can also enable generic websites, WebDAV, generic Files etc. in Hubzilla. It's more like "one size fits all" approach. If you don't have Nextcloud, you can use Hubzilla. If you don't have a blog, you can use Hubzilla. etc.
But I never got really warm with Hubzilla. One main advantage in my eyes is that it can run on PostgreSQL as a database.
So, I'm thinking of shutting down my Hubzilla hub at the end of the year to give the users enough time to move away...
But maybe I haven't understood #hubzilla yet and missed some points? If so, please shout and convince me to continue my hub... 😀
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Mario Vavti
in reply to Ingo Jürgensmann • •You might want to have a look at service classes: https://silverhaze.eu/help/en/admin/administrator_guide#Service_Classes
None of those services have internet-wide ACL.
That is of course up to you...
Ingo Jürgensmann
in reply to Mario Vavti • •https://nerdpol.ch/u/zotlabs
in reply to Ingo Jürgensmann • •Hubzilla wasn't actually designed as a social network, but more as an inter-networked groupware development platform. Many people get confused by this, because if you look at the world through social network coloured glasses, everything tends to look like a social network and then is judged by its ability to match your expectations of what a social network should do.
Should point out that if you find it has too much functionality or complexity for your liking, a couple of sibling projects were just released that might be more suited to your needs. Osada is an ActivityPub server with a wide range of "Facebook features", and Zap is similar but has more privacy and account mirroring options. As a result Zap will only federate with other Zot6 servers. Both of these are originally based on Hubzilla code but are restricted primarily to a "social networking" feature set without all the extra web publishing and shopping and groupware bits.
Ingo Jürgensmann
in reply to https://nerdpol.ch/u/zotlabs • •About all the other forks: I find it quite confusing to choose the right solution out of all these options. Of course it's always good to have more options then no option at all. 😀
I have to also admit that one cause that lead to my considerations to shutdown my hub is the issue I wrote in https://silverhaze.eu/channel/ij/?f=&mid=7ddd8739f23562ae25cf55476cd1d0d7edce2c218e84a04f91677b340f6134bc@silverhaze.eu - it happens again and again that php7.0-fpm runs wild on Hubzilla. After adding rotatelogs it did help with not filling up my harddisks, but not with the root cause, and new log files are opened every second, meaning that there is sooo much output that it's more than 10 MB/s of logs. Usage of rotatelogs means also, of course, that the root cause error is quickly rotated out and is gone.
Each time this happens I need to restart php7.0-fpm
Ingo Jürgensmann
Unknown parent • •But as stated as well, I can understand that new options are only available through the config file, but when these new features are stable and in production they should have a setting in the web GUI.
Brian Ó
in reply to Ingo Jürgensmann • •https://nerdpol.ch/u/zotlabs
in reply to Ingo Jürgensmann • •Brian Ó
in reply to Ingo Jürgensmann • •Brian Ó
in reply to Ingo Jürgensmann • •https://nerdpol.ch/u/zotlabs
in reply to Ingo Jürgensmann • •This turns out to be a huge support problem in Hubzilla and Friendica because commenters using D* protocol can't see comments from AP folks and vice versa. I'm not playing that game any more. The ActivityPub train left the station. It isn't perfect (not even close) but Diaspora is going to be forced to deal with it sooner or later. If either protocol breaks down their bloody walls I'll be happy to federate with both. Until then I've had to choose which I think has the better chance of success long term.
Brian Ó
in reply to Ingo Jürgensmann • •Kris
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